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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update | ||||
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0002788 | FSSCP | AI | public | 2013-02-07 00:03 | 2013-02-10 04:36 | ||||
Reporter | Woolie Wool | ||||||||
Assigned To | The_E | ||||||||
Priority | immediate | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always | ||||
Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||||||
Platform | AMD Phenom II | OS | Windows | OS Version | Vista | ||||
Product Version | 3.6.16 | ||||||||
Target Version | Fixed in Version | ||||||||
Summary | 0002788: Difficulty level appears locked on Insane | ||||||||
Description | The difficulty level for the game appears stuck on Insane, at least in regards to weapon fire rates and damage scaling. No matter how low you set the difficulty, enemy weapons will always do full damage. | ||||||||
Steps To Reproduce | Set the difficulty to Very Easy. Load an FSPort mission with no shields (for instance, Small Deadly Space from the original FS1 campaign, The Fifth Column from the Twist of Fate Demo). Allow enemies to shoot you. Vasudan Light Lasers will do 2-4% damage depending on whether one or both bolts hit. Terran Turrets will do around 18% damage. Being near (<150 m) an exploding Ma'at in Small Deadly Space will do catastrophic damage, perhaps killing you outright. On older builds (the one I cross-tested on was dated 12/28/11), damage done by these weapons on Very Easy is one fourth this amount, as intended. | ||||||||
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Woolie Wool (reporter) 2013-02-07 00:07 |
3.6.14 RC8 is not affected by this bug so it must have crept in during the 3.6.15 cycle. |
niffiwan (developer) 2013-02-07 05:45 Last edited: 2013-02-07 05:47 |
I have reproduced this with a little debug code to output the amount of damage taken by ships. I think it was introduced in r8629. Tested in Easy (2/5), no mods active r8628 I'm taking 6.75 hull damage from Subach's r8629 I'm taking 13.5 hull damage from Subach's I'll attach my test mission (which is just a hacked up version of an Axem test mission :nervous:) |
Yarn (developer) 2013-02-07 19:00 |
I can confirm that the bug was indeed introduced in r8629. I have uploaded another test mission that should test this bug more reliably. |
Zacam (administrator) 2013-02-08 19:00 Last edited: 2013-02-08 22:05 |
Has anyone thought to check the damage scaling (pre and post) based on ALL the difficulty levels? And yes. Woolie was kind enough to do exactly that over IRC with me. Hull integrity damage reduction on an unshielded Apollo from a Terran Turret using the FS2 default AI profile, from Very Easy to Insane: 5, 9, 12, 15, 18 Is the results from a build pre-revision and the test build (which is current trunk with the revision backed out, but that has other side effects) Build with the revision in question: the damage is 18, always on all difficulties. |
niffiwan (developer) 2013-02-08 22:08 Last edited: 2013-02-08 22:11 |
Aww... I just did that as well with Yarn's mission - well, not to let the results go to waste :) No Mod active - Shivan Mega Laser firing at an Ursa r8628 very easy: 7.500000 easy: 15.000000 medium: 19.500000 hard: 25.500000 insane: 30.000000 r8629 very easy: 30.000000 easy: 30.000000 medium: 30.000000 hard: 30.000004 insane: 30.000000 (also removed my test mission from the ticket) Also note: the firing speed of the Basilisk did change, with hard & insane being noticeably faster than very easy / easy / medium |
Woolie Wool (reporter) 2013-02-08 22:18 Last edited: 2013-02-08 22:53 |
Confirmed that this actually isn't related to insane difficulty, but simply ignoring all damage scaling by difficulty. I created a new AI profile called "LOL U R DED" with the damage factor on Insane set to 50000. Turrets still did 18% damage to the Apollo with newer builds. In older builds, after correcting a stupid typo, a single ML-16 shot could kill the player in this profile on Insane in older builds. So it indeed has nothing to do with Insane but rather the complete absence of damage scaling. Profile is: $Profile name: LOL U R DED $Player Damage Factor: 0.25, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 50000 #End |
Yarn (developer) 2013-02-08 22:44 |
Woolie Wool, I think I know why that's happening: you entered 0.5 as 0,5, which the game interprets as two values instead of one. See what happens if you correct that. |
Woolie Wool (reporter) 2013-02-08 22:52 |
Corrected, see note edit above. Everything ran as expected, instant overkill in older builds, 18% damage in newer builds. |
Zacam (administrator) 2013-02-08 23:01 |
So, it's not that it cares about the difficulty level scaling, it's that it is getting some arbitrary value and using that regardless of the difficulty scaling. That -should- make it easier to track down. |
Woolie Wool (reporter) 2013-02-08 23:27 |
The +Difficulty Scale Type: parameter in armor.tbl is also broken and does nothing. |
The_E (administrator) 2013-02-09 18:33 |
Attached a patch that may fix this. Please test. |
niffiwan (developer) 2013-02-09 22:37 |
Patch appears to fix the damage scaling. Tested with Yarn's mission: Very Easy -> Insane: 7.500000 15.000000 19.500000 25.500000 30.000000 |
The_E (administrator) 2013-02-10 04:36 |
Patch committed to trunk in 9529. The issues with +Difficulty Scale Type: will be dealt with in Mantis 2793. |
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Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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2013-02-07 00:03 | Woolie Wool | New Issue | |
2013-02-07 00:07 | Woolie Wool | Note Added: 0014686 | |
2013-02-07 05:45 | niffiwan | Note Added: 0014687 | |
2013-02-07 05:45 | niffiwan | Assigned To | => niffiwan |
2013-02-07 05:45 | niffiwan | Status | new => confirmed |
2013-02-07 05:46 | niffiwan | File Added: hurtme.fs2 | |
2013-02-07 05:47 | niffiwan | Note Edited: 0014687 | View Revisions |
2013-02-07 05:47 | niffiwan | Assigned To | niffiwan => |
2013-02-07 19:00 | Yarn | File Added: WeaponDamageTest.fs2 | |
2013-02-07 19:00 | Yarn | Note Added: 0014688 | |
2013-02-08 19:00 | Zacam | Note Added: 0014689 | |
2013-02-08 22:05 | Zacam | Note Edited: 0014689 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:08 | niffiwan | Note Added: 0014691 | |
2013-02-08 22:08 | niffiwan | File Deleted: hurtme.fs2 | |
2013-02-08 22:09 | niffiwan | Note Edited: 0014691 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:11 | niffiwan | Note Edited: 0014691 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:18 | Woolie Wool | Note Added: 0014692 | |
2013-02-08 22:19 | Woolie Wool | Note Edited: 0014692 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:27 | Woolie Wool | Note Edited: 0014692 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:44 | Yarn | Note Added: 0014693 | |
2013-02-08 22:48 | Woolie Wool | Note Edited: 0014692 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 22:52 | Woolie Wool | Note Added: 0014694 | |
2013-02-08 22:53 | Woolie Wool | Note Edited: 0014692 | View Revisions |
2013-02-08 23:01 | Zacam | Note Added: 0014695 | |
2013-02-08 23:27 | Woolie Wool | Note Added: 0014696 | |
2013-02-09 18:32 | The_E | File Added: 2788.patch | |
2013-02-09 18:33 | The_E | Note Added: 0014697 | |
2013-02-09 22:37 | niffiwan | Note Added: 0014698 | |
2013-02-10 04:36 | The_E | Note Added: 0014699 | |
2013-02-10 04:36 | The_E | Status | confirmed => resolved |
2013-02-10 04:36 | The_E | Resolution | open => fixed |
2013-02-10 04:36 | The_E | Assigned To | => The_E |