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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000322 | FSSCP | graphics | public | 2005-02-13 02:01 | 2005-03-14 00:40 |
| Reporter | King of Fighters | Assigned To | taylor | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0000322: Failure to display GTF Hercules Mk. 1 models in mission. | ||||
| Description | The Hercules fighter model does not display in missions involving them. Only the engine flares are visible. This also results in the fighters being almost completely invincible to weapons. The model for the Hercules fighter is stored with the shine maps. However, the shine maps are incompatible with ATI Catalyst drivers 4.4 and higher, which I have. If I put the files containing the shine maps in the Freespace folder, the game will crash upon loading a mission. If the shine maps where placed in another file, the problem would be repaired. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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What VP files are you using? |
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Are you using OpenGL or D3D? Which build? Is this the hi-poly Herc or the normal one? Cmdline? I've seen this if you aren't using -jpgtga with the hi-poly model. Also make sure that you are running the game in a 32-bit graphics mode rather than 16-bit as -jpgtga could get turned off otherwise. |
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Turn on -tpgtga The new models for them don't seem to like having that disabled. |
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Reminder sent to King of Fighters Did the problem with this bug go away when you used the -jpgtga commandline? |
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There are two basic problems here: 1) He's not using -jpgtga, otherwise it would show up properly, 2) That model doesn't provide PCX or DDS textures so that it can work in 16-bit color modes (ie. not using -jpgtga). The easy fix is just to use -jpgtga. A code fix is to convert those 24 and 32-bit TGAs to 16-bit if needed. I've got that partially implemented in newer builds but it's not enabled just yet. It also works with TGAs and not JPGs so it only addresses part of the problem. Guess I'll take this one and go ahead and enable the new code with an experimental cmdline option for the time being. It it works well then it can be enabled by default. |
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So we could call this a media_vp error and call it fixed? |
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This ship isn't in the MediaVP yet though I don't think. I'm really tempted to just call this Bob's problem since the model doesn't have compatible textures but it is something that can (and probably should) be handled by the code. If everyone uses DDS textures then it's not a problem but if they use TGA then another set has to be created for those with memory constraints that don't/can't use -jpgtga. Not really a good situation for anyone. There is already code to fix this so it's not like it's a lot of trouble to deal with. Considering this a code issue is just a kick in the pants to get the current code completed and tested. |
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Could something akin to compress PCX implemented for those choosing to disable jpg/tga textures? |
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Well the pcx2dds thing is in the video card. It saves video memory but not system memory. If people are not using -jpgtga then they are probably doing that to save system memory more than video memory. I just commited the TGA conversion code to CVS though. It will have a new cmdline option in the launcher (-tga16, "Convert 32-bit TGAs to 16-bit") under the Experimental section. It works pretty well for ship textures and some effects but doesn't do transparency very well yet. Even when it does it will pretty much be transparent or not with pretty much nothing in between. I'll continue to make it better as reports come in. This is still TGA only and doesn't make JPG work without -jpgtga. Probably will eventually but it's certainly not a high priority. |
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Fixered. Sorta. Moral of the story, use -jpgtga to see the ship. In upcoming builds there will be a -tga16 cmdline option which will convert the graphics to 16-bit so that -jpgtga isn't needed though. When properly tested it will be on by default. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2005-02-13 02:01 | King of Fighters | New Issue | |
| 2005-02-14 12:36 | kasperl | Note Added: 0001647 | |
| 2005-02-22 19:53 | taylor | Note Added: 0001674 | |
| 2005-02-26 21:55 | x0563511 | Note Added: 0001690 | |
| 2005-03-12 19:49 | kasperl | Note Added: 0001743 | |
| 2005-03-13 05:17 | taylor | Note Added: 0001798 | |
| 2005-03-13 05:17 | taylor | Status | new => assigned |
| 2005-03-13 05:17 | taylor | Assigned To | => taylor |
| 2005-03-13 09:58 | kasperl | Note Added: 0001813 | |
| 2005-03-13 14:43 | taylor | Note Added: 0001817 | |
| 2005-03-13 20:19 | Lightspeed | Note Added: 0001848 | |
| 2005-03-13 23:10 | taylor | Note Added: 0001860 | |
| 2005-03-14 00:40 | taylor | Status | assigned => resolved |
| 2005-03-14 00:40 | taylor | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2005-03-14 00:40 | taylor | Note Added: 0001866 |
