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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000180 | FSSCP | gameplay | public | 2004-04-25 20:35 | 2010-10-22 13:36 |
| Reporter | SadisticSid | Assigned To | Zacam | ||
| Priority | low | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0000180: "Huge" tag does not function for primary weapons on fighters | ||||
| Description | Pretty self-explanatory, the "Huge" tag should mean a weapon is fired only at a large ship, and this functions for primary and secondary weapons on large ships, and secondary weapons on fighters/bombers, but not on primary weapons on fighters/bombers. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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Erm, double-check this in retail. I'm pretty sure that all along "huge" only meant that it does huge damage... there's nothing preventing it from being fired at small ships. |
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in the ai_choose_secondary() function theres an if statement that handles when the target ship is a big ship, it then prioritizes to use "huge" weapons (if they are equipped), otherwise if the target is a small ship it won't use them when ai_select_secondary() is called |
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Goob, check the beams for a good example of this - SRed has the flags ("Big Ship" "huge" "beam") while SAAA has ("Big Ship" "beam"). The same is true for all other primary weapons mounted on capital ships' turrets. |
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Phreak, has there been any new development on this? |
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I was looking at this, never tried anything though. There may be a problem if an AI ship is carrying only "huge" primaries and the player orders them to attack a fighter. Would the ship pursue it with missiles or break off and attack something else |
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ok priority is: 1) Chase fighters with secondaries and don't fire primaries if all primaries have huge tag 2) if all primaries and secondaries have huge flags, find a new target 3) if no suitable target found, run. |
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This is going to take a long time to rewrite properly. If the weapon selection function fails, there really is no proper way to have ships break off their attack and focus on shooting something else. Besides, if the weapons selection fails, then the first weapon is selected for primaries. Secondaries fail gracefully IIRC. I guess the best solution is to have the the AI pick hostiles that satisfy available weapons* and maybe set ships to evade all hostiles or stay near friendly ships if no hostiles can be attacked with the current loadout. Perhaps have a sexp to change the behavior on a per-ship/wing basis. Say beta wing could evade, while gamma would stay near the GTD Aquataine. Also, if a ship is ordered, by the player, to attack a hostile that it can't attack. should the AI disregard the player orders and cause confusion to why it isn't attacking. *: 1) Weapons flags match 2) In range, or not too far away assign to FSO4? edited on: 08-30-05 11:05 |
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Yeah, might as well. EDIT: Okay, what happened to the FSO 4 user? edited on: 09-06-05 11:03 |
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deleted from the looks of it. |
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Reassigning. |
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Poke. I'd definitely like to see this resolved, as it's interfering with my beam bombers. See this thread... http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35539 We'd have to work out how this would affect weapons like the Trebuchet that have the Huge flag but are still extremely effective against smaller vessels. Maybe have its valid targets include bombers when it has the 'bomber+' flag. |
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I will work on this once 3.6.10 is not released. This is more of a bug and not a feature since the AI primary weapon choice is does not honor the "huge" (and probably not the "bomber+" flag either). I think it should require the smart AI primary selection flag in ai_profiles.tbl |
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Commit 5894 introduces "Captital+" flag for weapons that the AI actually honors, in that it will not utilize that weapon against not SIF_BIG_SHIP or SIF_HUGE_SHIP targets. Do we want to consider that a resolution for this issue? The E mentions though (and a good point at that) that Capital+ really only affects the Targeting usage of Primaries, while "Huge" affects targeting and damage for Secondaries. Idea (From The E): Leave "huge" alone, extend capital+ to cover primaries and secondaries, and introduce a new flag that will _only_ govern the damage-specific things."huge" would then effectively be turned into "capital+" | "new flag" |
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Closing. Using "Capital+" and "Huge" together solves this. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2004-04-25 20:35 | SadisticSid | New Issue | |
| 2004-04-26 19:07 | Goober5000 | Note Added: 0000829 | |
| 2004-04-28 16:59 | phreak | Note Added: 0000841 | |
| 2004-04-29 10:02 | SadisticSid | Note Added: 0000846 | |
| 2004-04-29 13:54 | Goober5000 | Status | new => assigned |
| 2004-04-29 13:54 | Goober5000 | Assigned To | => Goober5000 |
| 2004-04-30 04:08 | Goober5000 | Priority | normal => immediate |
| 2005-03-15 01:02 | Goober5000 | Note Added: 0001936 | |
| 2005-03-15 01:02 | Goober5000 | Assigned To | Goober5000 => phreak |
| 2005-03-15 01:37 | phreak | Note Added: 0001949 | |
| 2005-06-20 15:09 | phreak | Note Added: 0002664 | |
| 2005-08-30 15:04 | phreak | Note Added: 0003203 | |
| 2005-08-30 15:05 | phreak | Note Edited: 0003203 | |
| 2005-09-06 15:03 | Goober5000 | Note Added: 0003273 | |
| 2005-09-06 15:03 | Goober5000 | Note Edited: 0003273 | |
| 2005-09-06 17:05 | phreak | Note Added: 0003274 | |
| 2005-09-06 18:55 | Goober5000 | Note Added: 0003280 | |
| 2005-09-06 18:55 | Goober5000 | Assigned To | phreak => FSO 4 |
| 2005-09-06 18:55 | Goober5000 | Priority | immediate => low |
| 2005-10-02 00:06 | emperor | Note Added: 0003491 | |
| 2008-10-09 21:13 | phreak | Note Added: 0009917 | |
| 2009-01-20 05:20 | Goober5000 | Assigned To | FSO 4 => phreak |
| 2010-02-13 21:48 | Zacam | Note Added: 0011666 | |
| 2010-02-13 21:48 | Zacam | Assigned To | phreak => Zacam |
| 2010-10-22 13:35 | The_E | Note Added: 0012430 | |
| 2010-10-22 13:36 | The_E | Status | assigned => closed |
| 2010-10-22 13:36 | The_E | Resolution | open => fixed |
