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0000744FSSCP---------public2006-01-24 15:032012-07-21 19:26
Assigned ToGoober5000 
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Summary0000744: Inferno - protect-ship and play-dead don't work
DescriptionPlay-dead orders are ignored for turrets. For example, the frigate in mission 3 shouldn't fire on anything but its turrets actively target enemy fighters even while it's told to play-dead. The rotating coil around the ship doesn't start moving until it's given the order to fly to waypoints though, so it does play dead in that sense. I've been told that play-dead fighters may suddenly come to life, but I've never seen it happen yet.

Protect-ship flags are also ignored, although this can happen quite randomly. In mission 13, the Oberon sometimes attacks the Melia with its large plasma guns despite the Melia being protected. In mission 12, some friendly units can go off to attack the Melia as well.
Additional InformationTested with 05-01-23 Inferno build, although we've recognised this behaviour since last year. Not sure if it applies to the FS2 campaign as well.

Command line:
-glow -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -dualscanlines -rearm_timer -3dwarp -snd_preload -spec_exp 11 -spec_static 1.2 -spec_tube 0.4 -ambient_factor 80 -spec
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has duplicate 0001832closed Goober5000 play-dead sexp INF Build Bug 
has duplicate 0002192resolved Goober5000 EMP on an A.I. that has been ordered to play dead, brings it back 'alive' again 
has duplicate 0001956resolved karajorma Disarm/Disable results in protection for some ship classes for others not. 
Attached Files? 744 Test.fs2 (3,985) 2008-11-24 15:54
? ai_profiles.tbl (1,799) 2008-12-09 14:02

2006-11-25 19:36   
Okay, sorry for the delay here. Can I have a link to the latest mod, so I can test this out? PM is fine.
2006-11-25 19:37   

Reminder sent to: SadisticSid, Woomeister

I'm checking out your Inferno bug.
2007-04-11 03:23   
Is this still a problem?
2008-11-24 04:17   
No response in... two years. >.< I'm going to assume this is no longer a problem.
2008-11-24 15:55   
Just for posterity, I tested the play-dead portion of this bug. The Fenris in the test mission I uploaded did not attack me as I flew around it. So I think it's good as resolved.
2008-11-27 11:06   
Okay. I see it's reopened.
playerdead sexp bug still appear in INF builds. Here're some copy-pastes from INFA internal from guys who tested it:

"[mobius]Uhm, looks like protect-ship doesn't work with our current build. In m9(old m10), for example, Aemilia station(Asteria-class) has the protect-ship flag but pirate forces keep attacking it... :wtf:[/mobius]"

"In that regular build the flag "protect-ship" works properly. This bug seems to affect INF builds, only."
2008-11-27 11:32   
are there any ai_profiles tables in effect?
2008-11-27 14:12   
I think yes. Should I give you the table?
2008-11-27 15:24   
yea, attach the table and we can take a look
2008-12-05 10:54   
I'm attatching ai_profiles.tbl as you requested.
2008-12-09 11:08   
Hello? Anyone here?
2008-12-09 11:25   
We still need you to attach ai_profiles.tbl.

Can you also attach the broken mission, and provide a link to the internal thread?
2008-12-09 14:03   
AI. Profiles uplaoded. I don't have that mission but internal link is here:,57577.0.html Discussion starts on page 2 I think.
2008-12-15 16:26   
Again hello? ai_profiles.tbl posted.
2010-12-10 19:19   
Is this still current?
2012-07-02 11:35   
Just tested this with the attached mission and ai_profiles.tbl

I also edited to mission to test protect-ship stuff.

I can't reproduce the issues on build 8972.
The Trivial Psychic   
2012-07-02 13:10   
This may be related, but during my FRED work for the team, I encountered an instance when protect-ship'd escape pods (hostile) were still being fired upon by friendly fighters. However, when I checked all four of the sub categories: beam-protect-ship, flak-protect-ship, laser-protect-ship, and missile-protect-ship, then they are left alone. I'm not sure if this symptom extends beyond Inferno, but on our end at least it seems that protect-ship is not acting as a global flag. BTW, I was using 3.6.14 RC4.
2012-07-04 02:19   
It probably depends on what weapon the fighter is using. Can you attach a mission which demonstrates the bug?

I've also posted a thread in the Inferno internal forum.
2012-07-21 19:26   
The play-dead part of the bug is caused by the EMP issue, and the protect-ship part of the bug is caused by the disarm/disable issue. This has been confirmed with internal discussion. So I'm closing this as duplicate.

Issue History
2006-01-24 15:03SadisticSidNew Issue
2006-05-22 22:22Goober5000Statusnew => assigned
2006-05-22 22:22Goober5000Assigned To => Goober5000
2006-11-25 19:36Goober5000Note Added: 0007171
2006-11-25 19:37Goober5000Note Added: 0007172
2007-04-11 03:23Goober5000Note Added: 0007955
2008-11-24 04:17Goober5000Note Added: 0010261
2008-11-24 04:17Goober5000Statusassigned => closed
2008-11-24 04:17Goober5000Resolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2008-11-24 15:54chief1983File Added: 744 Test.fs2
2008-11-24 15:55chief1983Note Added: 0010264
2008-11-26 16:38Goober5000Statusclosed => feedback
2008-11-26 16:38Goober5000Resolutionunable to reproduce => reopened
2008-11-26 16:39Goober5000Relationship addedhas duplicate 0001832
2008-11-27 11:06shiv_plNote Added: 0010286
2008-11-27 11:32phreakNote Added: 0010287
2008-11-27 14:12shiv_plNote Added: 0010289
2008-11-27 15:24phreakNote Added: 0010290
2008-12-05 10:54shiv_plNote Added: 0010350
2008-12-09 11:08shiv_plNote Added: 0010387
2008-12-09 11:25Goober5000Note Added: 0010388
2008-12-09 14:02shiv_plFile Added: ai_profiles.tbl
2008-12-09 14:03shiv_plNote Added: 0010389
2008-12-15 16:26shiv_plNote Added: 0010420
2010-12-10 19:19The_ENote Added: 0012536
2012-07-02 11:35MjnMixaelNote Added: 0013794
2012-07-02 13:10The Trivial PsychicNote Added: 0013803
2012-07-04 02:19Goober5000Note Added: 0013813
2012-07-21 19:22Goober5000Relationship addedhas duplicate 0002192
2012-07-21 19:22Goober5000Relationship addedhas duplicate 0001956
2012-07-21 19:26Goober5000Note Added: 0013876
2012-07-21 19:26Goober5000Statusfeedback => closed
2012-07-21 19:26Goober5000Resolutionreopened => duplicate